NANOG 40 Notes

These notes are rather free form. Please don't complain, they are mostly so I know what I heard. :) Updates will be coming throughout Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

Opening Notes:
Steve Feldman, CNET
Thanks our host XKL!
Other meeting comments about organization and such.

Michael O'Brien, XKL
XKL is a network equipment vendor
Len Bosack, Cisco Co-Founder, owns XKL
Goal of XKL is to make gobs of bandwidth available for cheap
DXM Product is providing optical transport for NANOG
Encourages everyone to host because MERIT makes it easy
402 Attendees as of 6:13AM

Video Internet: The Next Wave of Disruption to the U.S. Peering Ecosystem
Willliam B. Norton, Equinix
Lots of info about Internet Peering, created a whitepaper or two on subject
Internet Service Providers and Peering whitepaper used by Moscow
12 different whitepapers available all for free
This is the textual version of information exchange

New way to exchange information is video
Massive Disruption in US Peering Ecosystem thanks to short videos
DoveTail - distributing High Def videos to theaters for free for smaller guys
2010 80-90% Internet is Video... is an amazing prediction if true
Desperate Housewives example: 10,000,000 households watching via iTunes woult be 2.1 PETA bytes... 3 days at 64Gpbs circuit

Many comments on why Peer-to-Peer might be the way to go and stop with the central distribution
Comments from Stanford prof who says (while red-faced upset), P2P will NEVER fly because the ISPs won't beef up their network to allow for that... someone else will have to pay for it!

Folks are STILL clinging on to the OLD models... delivery of HTML content... NOT large amounts of data... Network Architectures are NOT moving forward

Panel: Higher Speed Ethernet - 40G vs 100G
Richard A. Steenbergen, nLayer Communications; Greg Hankins, Force10 Networks; Drew Perkins, Infinera; Igor Gashinsky, Yahoo!
Hmmm, a bit of disinformation from Richard. There really is a 100GE group and a 40GE & 100GE group... there isn't anyone publically calling for 40GE only

Greg provided an update on IEEE process and what a PAR is and the like

Jay Note: You can find Geneva Meeting presentations here, and the Meeting Notes here.

Drew provided comments that he feels there will be 40GE for Servers and 100GE for Network... not sure where the servers are plugging into... sucks to be a Network Vendor.
Drew ran WAAAAAAY over... not exactly a Network Operators presentation, can't believe Rich isn't cutting him off... 10 minutes ago

Igor's presentation was same as Yahoo! has been showing at IEEE, NANOG folks got it a LOT better than Intel, Broadcom, and Sun get it though.

Lots of comments... felt like IEEE with Ted, Peter from NTT Verio, and myself. Fun!

A DNS Anomaly Detection and Analysis System
Hyo-Jeong Shin, KT
Basically: put packet sniffers in front of your DNS farms, don't look at DNS log files across many different servers because it takes too long

Revisiting Interdomain Root Cause Analysis from multiple vantage points
Mickael Meulle, France Telecom R&D
Sounds a bit like Nick Feamster's BGP work for providing NOC visibility while troubleshooting issues.
Also singles out AS' who are behaving badly.

ISP Security
Danny McPherson, Arbor Networks and Kevin Lanning, AT&T
NIST has a BGP Security document, lots of comments, incorporated now, published on NIST website today or tomorrow Google "NIST BGP Security"
Looking for additional comments
Merike Kaeo, From Estonia!
Cyber Attacks on Estonia Short Synopsis

Chris Morrow, Verizon
CALEA - What do and do not ISPs have to do?
TALK TO YOUR LAWYERS!
http://www.askcalea.org is a good place to get some basic info, BUT... TALK TO YOUR LAWYERS!
No debating whether or not CALEA should be there... TALK TO YOUR LAWYERS and they'll tell you what you have to do or not.
Cisco can have an ACL to tunnel matches to an mediation server
NOCs and engineers CANNOT know that a tap exists
There is no cost recovery for CALEA, you JUST HAVE TO RESPOND

IPv6 Unique Local Address BOF
Randy Bush, IIJ
ULA's suck. There is no one coming forward asking for them.
Read RFC3879 first. Now read RFC4193.
Block them everywhere. Do not allow them. Can we say STOP loud enough?
BAD BAD BAD.

Beer 'n Gear
Sponsors: Arbor Networks, Cariden, Cisco Systems, Foundry Networks, Juniper Networks, Renesys, Transmode, VSNL International, XKL

Keynote Presentation
David S. Isenberg, Netidentity
Missed due to AOL meeting.

sFlow implementation at AMS-IX
Elisa Jasinska, AMS-IX
Missed due to AOL meeting and AOL work.

Revisiting AS ranking
Mickael Meulle, France Telecom R&D
Missed due to lack of seating. :)

Modeling the Routing of an ISP with C-BGP
Bruno Quoitin, Université catholique de Louvain, Belgium
Missed due to lack of seating. :)

Tutorial: How to Update Wireshark (Ethereal)
Aamer Akhter, Cisco Systems

Peering BOF XV
William B. Norton, Equinix

High availability multicast delivery in IPTV networks
Peter Arberg, Redback Networks

BGP Origins - An Application of the Public Space
Eric Osterweil, UCLA

BGP Convergence in much less than a second
Clarence Filsfils, Cisco Systems